Violet Lucy (née Paynter)
1883 - ????

 Relationship to me: Great Aunt Gen -2 

Violet at her wedding
1907

(see below for whole photo)
 Born: 1883  
 Died: ????  
 Age ??  
 Father:      Henry Paynter 1846 - 1919
 Mother: Henrietta Paynter (née Newman) 1849 - 1914
 Brothers: (elder) Ernest 1869 - 1958
  William 1870 ~ 1888 
  Fredrick 1872 - 1945
  Edwin Coleman 1882 - c.1975
 Sisters:   (elder) Kate 1868 - 1953
  Lilian  1873 - 1958
  Eva 1876 - ???? 
  Winnie 1878 - 1943
  Rose 1885 - c1921
  (younger) Edith May 1889 - 1982 
  Olive  1895 - c.1953
 Married: Frank Lucy m. 15 Oct 1907
 Children: Henry
  William
  Bernard   
  John   
  Joyce   


Back row: Olive, Frank Lucy, Violet, Edith, ????
Front Row: ????, may be Winnie


From my father's "Reminiscences": "A determined strong character; taught in a London kindergarten; married a widower Frank Lucy, an ex-rubber planter from Malaya; lived at Sutton Valence where I visited them quite often from Chatham".


Outline her Life: Ian Caldwell notes: Violet Paynter (Vi), b.1883, baptised 27/9/1883, married 15/10/1907 to Francis William Lucy Esquire of Weston under Penyard, Ross. She had previously been engaged to a much older man in 1899 who had given her a ring which she lost. He made such a fuss about her losing the ring that she broke off the engagement. So she married Frank Lucy, who was also a much older man and they lived in Kent. Frank Lucy had been married before and had three children, Richard (Dick), Mary and Mardi, by his first wife, who had committed suicide by drowning herself in a lake. His children were much the same age as Vi. One of Vi's first acts on entering the family was to get rid of the cat, which the children had been fond of, but which Vi thought unhygienic.

Dick was in the navy as a radio operator. He found the heat in the Mediterranean intolerable, ran up on the deck and shot himself as he jumped over the side. Neither Mary nor Mardi got married. Mardi was very quiet and shy and did gardening work. Mary ran a sweet shop at Sutton Valence School and was a great help to Joyce with her children and a good sister to Mardi.

Vi was always correct and very formal, dressing for dinner, and Frank was very fond of her, often laying his hand affectionately on hers at table. She wore garnets and had striking dark brown hair, even when she was an old woman.

They had several children:

Henry (Peter) was the eldest. He went to Malaya as a rubber planter. There he married Dorothy (Tommy), an ebullient woman, whose real name I forget. She had a wealthy father who had made money in China out of munitions. They came to England, probably after Vi died as he inherited the house.

William (Billy) was the second eldest brother. He was handsome and brave. I remember a large oil painting of him in naval uniform on the staircase at Langley Lodge. He was in the Fleet Air Arm during the Second World War. He was decorated for bravery before he was shot and killed in action.

Bernard, the third son, went out to Malaya where he was working in agriculture on the rotation of crops, when he died of a tropical fever before the 1939-45 War.

John (Johnny) was the youngest son, about the same age as my mother and he married very late in life, to Ena Grant (of Grant's Whiskey - her late husband's business). Johnny worked for the Milk Marketing Board and travelled up to London every day by train

Joyce was the youngest child who married Alan Day, a well-to-do Kent farmer, and they live at Tong Farm, near Headcorn in Kent. They have several children: Timothy, the eldest son, was a very popular young man and a very plucky homosexual who had a lover who was in the army whose mail was intercepted and he was thrown out of the army as a result. Timothy wrote an article about the unfairness of this in the Guardian at a time when homosexuality was far less accepted than it is today. Sadly he died of a blood disease.  Susan married an Irishman and lives in San Francisco. They divorced and she runs a shopping and housing complex there and is a charming person (according to my Aunt, Betty Ross). William inherited Tong Farm and is married to a girl whose name I do not know. They have two sons, one who is a National Hunt jockey and the other who my Aunt believes went to University, but I don't either of their names. The youngest daughter is Frances, who trained as a beautician.


Last updated: 5th April 2004